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[–] 161 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Bedrock Minecraft has always been the micro transaction version of Minecraft.

If you're playing Bedrock and are now worried about Microtransactions, that's on you.

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  • [–] 64 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, I'm convincing my daughter to switch to Java or https://www.luanti.org/, the big issue is my ex doesn't have a PC for her, only an Xbox.

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  • [–] 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    We will be forced to rent computers from nvidia soon anywayl

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  • [–] 63 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    They just removed obfuscation from Java Edition. If they even try to do a single stupid move - like with chat reporting a few years ago - it will be simply modded out of the game.

    The only thing that they might be able to do is increase the price for buying the game, mess with the accounts or illegally change their EULA - without notifying anyone - again.

    Bugrock Edition on the other hand is already a dumpster fire for years, so nobody really cares about that one in the first place...

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    As long as the java edition exists it's still there.

    Even if the java edition goes away, it will still be there.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    If Java edition "goes away" it will just become a standalone community distributed platform frozen in development time.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nah the modding community would pop the fuck off. Half of the work of the mod devs is keeping up with version compatibility. Imagine they no longer have to worry about version changes ever again? They can just develop their mod and put all of their effort into the latest version of Minecraft.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    the main issue will be if they do a major API update right before they do it. Remember the great "flattening"? We lost many great mods when they did that because of the amount of changes they did to base code while simultaneously changing every ID in the game, while forge was also actively undergoing a major API change in how it worked. So as a result many mods stopped being developed at 1.12.

    If they did a massive API rewrite right before fully ending support for java, the community will either have to accept another divide or completly forgo the new update and stay locked on the previous.

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  • [–] 59 points 9 months ago (31 children)

    https://www.luanti.org/ has long surpassed anything Minecraft had going for it.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I tried minetest long ago and was not particularly impressed. Has the community grown big enough?

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago

    The "Minetest" you tried was likely just the barebones example game that used to ship with the engine. Since so many people got confused by that, they stopped distributing that example game with the engine and now you get asked what fully featured games you want on first start. Voxelibre is the one that is like Minecraft but better.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Does it support Minecraft mods, or does it have to have them converted/made special for it?

    Because that's going to affect whether or not it has surpassed anything imo.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    It has equivalents for most Minecraft mods (and more), but no, it is not directly compatible with Minecraft.

    I think you should rather ask if Minecraft mods come even close to what Luanti games can do 😅

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    [–] 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Bedrock has been doing shitty monetisation for ages. Play Java, enjoy.

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    [–] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What a fantastic awareness campaign for Luanti!

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    [–] 47 points 9 months ago (9 children)
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    What actually is this? The Website is rather unhelpful. Its just a Minecraft clone?

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    It started as minetest, an open source minecraft clone. It has since developed into a full voxel engine, supporting community made game modes and modpacks.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It has since developed into a full voxel engine, supporting community made game modes and modpacks

    Thanks, that's exactly what I was talking about. What does that mean? Its a Minecraft clone?

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    What actually is this?

    Luanti is the engine that MineClonia runs on, and Mineclonia is a full featured, finished, Minecraft clone.

    The Website is rather unhelpful.

    Seriously. It's a little sad.

    Its just a Minecraft clone?

    For practical purposes, it absolutely is.

    Grab Luanti for free off of F-Droid or any Linux app store, or out of the SteamDeck Desktop "Software Center". Launch "Luanti", choose "Mineclonia". (Edit: or Windows or Mac, too. - Luanti - Getting Started.

    Pick a username to "Register" (local play is identical to server play) and start playing free open, wonderful, easily modded, multiplayer Minecraft clone.

    If a friend wants to join, just give them your IP address - even on SteamDeck or Android phone (edit: and Windows and Mac - sorry, no iPhone, I think.)

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    [–] 38 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Another little reminder:

    • if you play games, do not buy microtransaction items or, if possible, games that try to sell them.
    • If you are a parent, do not let your kids buy microtransaction items or games that try to sell them.
    • If you know a parent who is not a gamer, share these concepts with them. They won't have these sorts of things piped into their bubble under any normal circumstances.
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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    My kids, 10 and 14, are very anti corporate greed and I couldn’t be more proud. They also complain when they aren’t on the local WiFi if they are playing mobile games because the ads don’t get blocked. A couple years ago my youngest asked me to turn ads on so he could hatch monsters or something faster, I bypassed his device and a couple months later he was complaining that the game is a time sink full of ads and he doesn’t want to play it anymore and wants ad blocking re-enabled.

    They aren’t perfect and I have never tried to preach to them too much. Not really sure where I was going with this but your post reminded me how much I appreciate that my boys actively avoid and protest against playing games with ads and micro transactions at such a young age and I felt like sharing with someone.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If you'd like to build a 4th chest, you will have to buy some chest tokens using minecoins which of course has a tiered pricing scheme.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Why do we live in a world where incompetent people are constantly rewarded

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Corporate mantra:

    Profits Rule Everything Around Me

    Microtransactions may make a game an unplayable pile of shit most of the time, but they’re a great way to turn children’s allowances into corporate profit if you’re a gigantic corporation that doesn’t care at all about amount of fun that can be had in a game.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Minecraft Java edition feels like the "community" version of the game while bedrock seems like the awful micro transaction playground for Microsoft.

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    [–] 27 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    You can just download any of the older iterations of Minecraft and host your own server.

    You don't need to be on the latest release.

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    [–] 21 points 9 months ago*

    additional context; Katie Scott, a former exec at ubisoft, will be the "Head of Vanilla Minecraft" in 2026. this source writes:

    Scott left Ubisoft in November, but her role as vice president of the company's global creative game office saw her specialize in "competitive, live service, and free to play experiences to create games with lasting impact, high retention, and monetization results." She also writes that she focused on "live service strategies and ambitious retention and monetization" in Assassin's Creed and Rainbow Six games

    now that sounds bad on paper, but it's unclear to me what exactly she'll be doing in this position. best i could find was this linkedin post advertising the position 7 months ago, which reads:

    Join us in shaping the future. Minecraft isn't just a game. It's a platform for creativity, learning, and building community. We're seeking a senior leader, based in Stockholm, to guide our talented teams toward Minecraft's evolution. Help us build a better world through the power of play.

    my interpretation of this is that she'll still be under other managers, and wouldn't be making any big decisions alone. regardless, this is not a good look for Mojang, especially at a time where the community are getting impatient with Bedrock's issues.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting to see how this pans out.

    Minecraft really isn't a game where microtransactions work, at least on the ethical stuff. It's a game about creativity and sharing, which means a lot of people won't be bothered with mtx.

    The elephant in the room is that there's a giant ecosystem of paid server nonsense, most of which is basically pay-to-win and gambling for school kids, which Microsoft and Mojang somehow approve. They just think it's unfair they don't get a cut, hence the push for Bedrock marketplace and servers. Thing is, if Microsoft really starts seriously sticking their fingers into that pie, I really hope the regulators start waking up.

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    They're never gonna put that stuff into Java, that's the fully Mojang version of the game. And even then it'll be as easy as ever to mod anything they try adding out.

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    [–] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Highly recommend Vintage Story to those who love the survival aspect of Minecraft. In my opinion, it also offers a lot more creative freedom but you really have to work for it.

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    [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Good thing there's Luanti

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Dont feel like mining? $.99 will get you a stack of whatever block you need to build a base home!

    Don't feel like crafting? Buy blueprints to the most extravagent of builds! Only $19.99

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    [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    What an amazing time to have started playing Vintage Story

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