No excuse to be below 100%
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As long as impeachment effort remains divided along party lines, this is not a story worth publishing.
Yeah, it is. The straggling Democrats need to be primaried. Noem makes up undeniable lies in front of Congress every time she testifies.
It is very disheartening that not a single R is supporting this. Or it would be if I had any heart left to dis.
Dems growing a spine is a story worth telling.
Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.
That's still less than half the Dem caucus on a motion that should be a litmus test for Rules Based Intentional Order liberalism.
I'd say the most damning indictment of impeachment is that it's not along party lines. 113 House Dems aren't sponsoring a bill to remove the most corrupt bureaucrat to hold the DHS office.
Dems should be talking about DHS like Republicans talk about the IRS. Not whatever this is.
It’s not even on party lines, more than half of Democrats see an innocent woman get shot in the face and still refuse to act.
The issue is, I don’t think it’s her so much as Stephen Miller. Even so, there is no shortage of individuals willing to take her role.
Yes, do it. Congress desperately needs to reclaim some of its power. But don’t expect her to be the last.
If you sign up to be the mouthpiece you should expect to be one of the first people to get punched in the mouth.
don’t think it’s her so much as Stephen Miller.
Noem was an outspoken fascist from her days as governor. It's how she got the job.
Might as well debate whether Himmler or Goering hated Jews more.
Impeach Trump before he starts a world war for crying out loud.
Wait a moment. I'm not American so I don't understand. In the house there are 213 democrats, so that means more than half of them is thinking that is perfectly fine and normal having someone like her? It doesn't seem like "skyrocketing numbers" to me. I understand that an alternate headline is "majority of House Dems are against impeaching noem"
Thats exactly correct and anyone who tries to say otherwise is either being willfully ignorant or intentionally minimizing this fact. You might also be surprised to learn that many of these Dems voted against impeaching Trump for a third time last year. Their actions speak much louder than words.
They likely gave up because they realized that trying to impeach him is just adding fuel to his bases fire.
You gotta realize that Trump has a third of the country believing that he is a victim of political persecution. The "witch hunt" rhetoric was taken hook, line, and sinker. They sincerely and earnestly believe that Trump is a good man with a righteous vision, who is targeted by "the radical left", which is "weaponizing" the DoJ or the impeachment process.
And unfortunately, that less than 1/3 of the country lives in the right place to make them worth more than half of the seats in the Senate, so impeachment was bound to go nowhere and ultimately hurt the democratic party going into the next elections.
And this plot predates even Trump's first term. Part of the reason this guy is now Teflon is that he installed a lot of court seats. Partly due to Mitch holding back the nomination of Merrick Garland, but he was also holding back a shitload of lower court vacancies so that they could get filled by 45.
I agree that he should have been impeached, tried, and ultimately convicted. Honestly at this point, I feel like he should be hung for treason. But politics, sadly, can't always align with justice.
Skyrocketing / exploding numbers doesn't imply a majority.
A number can grow significantly and still be a less than another number.
Not exactly.
For context, a bill only needs one sponsor. Most bills have about 2 or 3 cosponsors. Signing a bill as a cosponsor is not the same as voting, which hasn't happened yet.
The impeachment process is complicated and difficult (by design). Congress is split in two parts, the House of Representatives, and the Senate. Anyone in the House can introduce a bill to impeach someone (bring them to trial). But in order for anything to happen, you need a majority vote to adopt that bill. It then gets sent to the Senate, where they have another majority vote to decide if there will be a trial. If and only if there's a trial, you need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to convict. This has happened exactly 8 times in the history of the United States, and never for a sitting president.
If you don't have at least a majority in both parts of Congress, it's basically pointless. Introducing an impeachment bill becomes a symbolic gesture. All the voters hear is "Democrats tried to impeach, and failed. Again." This demoralizes Democrat voters and energizes Republican voters.
So, yeah, a lot of Democrat politicians aren't on board because they already know how this will play out.
It's all symbolic, which is what DC Democrats specialize in. We have a one-party authoritarian state, and the Ruling Party will never allow it.
I can't understand why people don't see this. Democrats in the minority sure are fighters, but oh darn, they just don't have the numbers, so vote harder next time! Democrats in the majority suddenly have to be super diplomatic, lest they ruffle feathers across the aisle and lose cooperation with the political party that rarely cooperates. Keep voting hard and they'll get there, eventually!
And half of 435 is 218, which is more than twice 100.
The only reason Democrats are supporting this is because its failure is ensured.
exploding
Can't be an actual explosion because then the Dems would actually be doing something useful.
Midterms.
Things are going to get really really bad in like August through October. I hope everything goes off normally, but I think most people are expecting the worst we've seen so far. Trump and Co. has done too much illegal shit to not risk everything to stay out of prison.
The fact that this is not a party line vote for democrats shows you how completely amoral the Democratic leadership is.
It seems a little silly to me that they are talking about impeaching her, but not also Trump. Like who do they think she will be replaced with? My bet is someone worse. If Trump didn't want what ICE is doing they wouldn't be doing it.
That's simply because impeaching trump is a lot harder. They are in fact talking about it too tho
Wait, they didn't all want to impeach her after like the first week?
What about trump? Impeach trump... remove him from office for being a dumb old super idiot man baby... why do we care about this person when the root of the problem is still running the USA....
Let's not let the perfect get in the way of the good tho
It will change nothing, but still should be done for our collective conscience and historic record that we didn’t want this
Stop talking about it and fucking do it. People are dying in the streets every day.
This doesn't matter. It wont get a vote in the house or the senate without republican support. Republicans still refuse to defy their cult leader, so nothing will change until they either realize they are going to prison, or that they will lose all of their money.
The only things politicians care about is money and control, they refuse to lose both.
Shouldn't we want to impeach every Republican in any office ever for any reason? It's not like they've ever done anything that want literally being a terrorist.
But they won't even consider defunding ICE.
Fucking kick them out of their torpor. Hell, old man Schmuck get off his ass and smell the coffee. Fix this or cause the worst catastrophe since the Reichstag Fire.
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