Support among House Democrats for impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.

That's an unprecedented level of support for an impeachment effort during President Trump's second term, with lawmakers who have bristled at the topic in the past now warming to the idea.

Kelly is urging Republicans to get on board with her efforts — even as no GOP lawmaker has come close to expressing support for Noem's impeachment.

"As Secretary Noem continues to lie, obstruct Congress, and violate people's civil rights, the support for her impeachment only grows," she said.

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[–] 178 points 8 months ago (29 children)
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    [–] 126 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    As long as impeachment effort remains divided along party lines, this is not a story worth publishing.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Dems growing a spine is a story worth telling.

    Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.

    That's still less than half the Dem caucus on a motion that should be a litmus test for Rules Based Intentional Order liberalism.

    I'd say the most damning indictment of impeachment is that it's not along party lines. 113 House Dems aren't sponsoring a bill to remove the most corrupt bureaucrat to hold the DHS office.

    Dems should be talking about DHS like Republicans talk about the IRS. Not whatever this is.

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    [–] 59 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    The issue is, I don’t think it’s her so much as Stephen Miller. Even so, there is no shortage of individuals willing to take her role.

    Yes, do it. Congress desperately needs to reclaim some of its power. But don’t expect her to be the last.

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  • [–] 46 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Impeach Trump before he starts a world war for crying out loud.

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    [–] 41 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    Wait a moment. I'm not American so I don't understand. In the house there are 213 democrats, so that means more than half of them is thinking that is perfectly fine and normal having someone like her? It doesn't seem like "skyrocketing numbers" to me. I understand that an alternate headline is "majority of House Dems are against impeaching noem"

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Thats exactly correct and anyone who tries to say otherwise is either being willfully ignorant or intentionally minimizing this fact. You might also be surprised to learn that many of these Dems voted against impeaching Trump for a third time last year. Their actions speak much louder than words.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    They likely gave up because they realized that trying to impeach him is just adding fuel to his bases fire.

    You gotta realize that Trump has a third of the country believing that he is a victim of political persecution. The "witch hunt" rhetoric was taken hook, line, and sinker. They sincerely and earnestly believe that Trump is a good man with a righteous vision, who is targeted by "the radical left", which is "weaponizing" the DoJ or the impeachment process.

    And unfortunately, that less than 1/3 of the country lives in the right place to make them worth more than half of the seats in the Senate, so impeachment was bound to go nowhere and ultimately hurt the democratic party going into the next elections.

    And this plot predates even Trump's first term. Part of the reason this guy is now Teflon is that he installed a lot of court seats. Partly due to Mitch holding back the nomination of Merrick Garland, but he was also holding back a shitload of lower court vacancies so that they could get filled by 45.

    I agree that he should have been impeached, tried, and ultimately convicted. Honestly at this point, I feel like he should be hung for treason. But politics, sadly, can't always align with justice.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The impeachment process is complicated and difficult (by design). Congress is split in two parts, the House of Representatives, and the Senate. Anyone in the House can introduce a bill to impeach someone (bring them to trial). But in order for anything to happen, you need a majority vote to adopt that bill. It then gets sent to the Senate, where they have another majority vote to decide if there will be a trial. If and only if there's a trial, you need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to convict. This has happened exactly 8 times in the history of the United States, and never for a sitting president.

    If you don't have at least a majority in both parts of Congress, it's basically pointless. Introducing an impeachment bill becomes a symbolic gesture. All the voters hear is "Democrats tried to impeach, and failed. Again." This demoralizes Democrat voters and energizes Republican voters.

    So, yeah, a lot of Democrat politicians aren't on board because they already know how this will play out.

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    [–] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It's all symbolic, which is what DC Democrats specialize in. We have a one-party authoritarian state, and the Ruling Party will never allow it.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I can't understand why people don't see this. Democrats in the minority sure are fighters, but oh darn, they just don't have the numbers, so vote harder next time! Democrats in the majority suddenly have to be super diplomatic, lest they ruffle feathers across the aisle and lose cooperation with the political party that rarely cooperates. Keep voting hard and they'll get there, eventually!

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    That is an embarrassingly low number.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    And half of 435 is 218, which is more than twice 100.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    The only reason Democrats are supporting this is because its failure is ensured.

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    [–] 22 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    exploding

    Can't be an actual explosion because then the Dems would actually be doing something useful.

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    Things are going to get really really bad in like August through October. I hope everything goes off normally, but I think most people are expecting the worst we've seen so far. Trump and Co. has done too much illegal shit to not risk everything to stay out of prison.

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    [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The fact that this is not a party line vote for democrats shows you how completely amoral the Democratic leadership is.

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    [–] 16 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    It seems a little silly to me that they are talking about impeaching her, but not also Trump. Like who do they think she will be replaced with? My bet is someone worse. If Trump didn't want what ICE is doing they wouldn't be doing it.

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Wait, they didn't all want to impeach her after like the first week?

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    What about trump? Impeach trump... remove him from office for being a dumb old super idiot man baby... why do we care about this person when the root of the problem is still running the USA....

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Not only the Dog Murderer, the whole fucking lot needs to GTFO!

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It will change nothing, but still should be done for our collective conscience and historic record that we didn’t want this

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    [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Stop talking about it and fucking do it. People are dying in the streets every day.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This doesn't matter. It wont get a vote in the house or the senate without republican support. Republicans still refuse to defy their cult leader, so nothing will change until they either realize they are going to prison, or that they will lose all of their money.

    The only things politicians care about is money and control, they refuse to lose both.

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    [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Do it! Quit fucking around!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Shouldn't we want to impeach every Republican in any office ever for any reason? It's not like they've ever done anything that want literally being a terrorist.

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    [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    But they won't even consider defunding ICE.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Send her ass to the hauge

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Fucking kick them out of their torpor. Hell, old man Schmuck get off his ass and smell the coffee. Fix this or cause the worst catastrophe since the Reichstag Fire.

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