So they fired the executives responsible, right?
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Seems like we’re entering the “find out” phase…
If only...
Firing a large group of people and re-hiring a subset at reduced rates is a standard business practice used to keep wages down. This wasn't a mistake in policy, it was a clumsy execution.
According to Poon, some of the company’s most experienced personnel left before all of their accumulated knowledge could be fully transferred into Ford’s automated systems. That necessitated bringing back some of those employees to retrain those systems...
See this, nothing was learned by these slop-shits. Their take away wasn't humans-with-experience > than slop-bots. It was, unfortunately, 'we didn't extract enough knowledge from the humans that helped build our company before tossing as many humans away as possible. Once we've extracted enough, we'll try again.'
Fuck you poon and co.
Funny how the capitalist narrative is that the CEO types "deserve" all they get because they worked hard and "built the company", but employee's that've been equally there for it's hardship and growth, actually with their hands in the mud, actually have all the practical knowledge, yet are only on an income, are tossed aside at the nearest convenience because somebody smelled a bit more money.
Some of them really can't be arsed to give back the community and systems that allowed them to flourish in the first place can they.
Locust swarm.
Sometimes I feel so blessed working for somebody that actually values people.
Hopefully those employees said, "Sure, I'll come back, but my salary requirement is 50% more than you were paying me."
I always thought it was a joke until it happened to friends of mine. Massive layoffs, they were experts in one specific technology, they came back as consultants for a few years with a doubled salary. They were fired again later, but with a lot more money so it was worth it.
It would be great if all the workers would agree on this collectively, rather than just one offs.
That’s such a dumb fucking quote. Imagine being a stockholder and reading that sentence spouted from someone at the helm of the company.
Kick rocks, wet socks.
Your thinking like a logical person…not a sycophant with an entitled attitude to their gains.
Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and adjusting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product
That's so low IQ, like saying "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing a lawn mower and adjust the landscaping requirements, that that would produce a high quality lawn."
I've been using an LLM for programming for last 6mo and it needs constant babysitting. It's basically something that just does the most straightforward thing without consideration of nuance, maintainability or whether to actually split into a module. This is very much not surprising.
Yeah, I use it for some programming tasks as well. I’m sick and tired of telling it that it did something wrong or simply omitted something, only to have it apologize and offer to fix its own mistakes.
The major problem is that the work of an LLM has a massive number of hidden 'assumptions' that you need to be aware of. If you don't already have a good working knowledge of the task you wont have an intuition about those assumptions. It's annoying.
The active dev I know who uses it daily says it drastically reduces the time he spends on routine tasks and sometimes comes up with novel approaches, but he definitely has to check everything. The problem is inexperienced or non-experienced people thinking it's a magic lamp you can rub and it poofs out an expert programmer.
So the VP quit or was right fired, right? Right?
Out of a cannon I hope.
I hope they had to double their previous salaries...
And they're going to fire Charles Poon for fucking this up, right?
The Broligarch's are reading the wrong philosophers. If they read Polanyi they would know that you can't build a tacit knowledge system based on explicit knowledge. Its summed up in the pithy "we know more than we can tell". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanyi%27s_paradox
“would produce a high-quality product,”
Ai couldn’t do it. Real engineers can. However C suite gonna rebute high quality in favour of service and product that fleeces the most of the buyer.
just goes to show, mid-level lackeys will do anything for Poon
Very normal story at this point. Managers incompetently think AI will magically replace employees, they lay off employees, it doesn't work, they rehire the employees.
I assume someone got a big bonus for that decision and now someone (maybe even the same person) gets a big bonus for the decision to rehire.
Well he's being honest in admitting his mistake. In 20 years in the corporate world I've never seen an exec do that.
"Mistakenly"? More like delusionally. The shortcomings of current AI systems are hardly a secret. Anyone who spent a few minutes getting informed would be aware of those.
In addition, the automaker underestimated the value of the institutional knowledge accumulated by its more veteran engineers who had worked through multiple vehicle-development cycles. And this combination of phenomena led to a drop in quality in Ford’s vehicles.
Years ago I worked at an ISP tgat went through a merger. They decided they were going to outsource customer service to another company.
We all got nice severances and 3 months prior notice where we basically didn't work because all calls were being routed to the new call center and we were just backup. What a great 3 months. We had card tourneys, spun up the companies old game servers and ran minecraft (alpha) on them, lots of fun.
Get laid off, fast forward a year and the outsource company has taken an 86% approval ratimg down to the low 30s.
They hired a lot of us back to completely rebuild the service department. I was tier 1 and got a 76% raise. I imagine others got better.
I bet the executives who made the decision gave themselves a bonus and are still working there despite the monumental blunder.
Hoooo boy, make sure you never buy a Ford again.
You mean plastic oil pans might not be great idea?

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