submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by to c/leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 

Maybe if people with your ideology only make things that harm you it's an opportunity to reflect.

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[–] 159 points 2 months ago (74 children)

Nothing wrong with communists. I feel so radicalized by capitalism I'm almost there anyway.

It's the Russian/China apologists that are annoying.

Russia is bad, Chia.na is bad, and the U.S. is bad. All those things can be true. But all the insufferable posts about how great China and Russia are, and all the bad things you have heard about them m are just Western propaganda...

If they were serious about their ideology, then why do they care so much about someone thinks about China or Russia.

If they didn't brigade those issues so much, straight up ban people, just because they disagree, or hlrefuse to have any real discussion that doesn't center on just shutting other people down, then maybe people outside their group might take them more seriously.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Anarcho communists welcome you. We hate all nation states equally. Unfortunately there aren't enough of us to brigade anything.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    For anyone who wishes to know more Now And After: The ABC of Communist Anarchism was written to explain anarcho-communism in plain, easily understood, language.

    It begins by explaining the current capitalist system (now) and then goes on to explain anarchism (after).

    It is available to read or download in multiple formats, for free, here: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism#toc2

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago* (11 children)

    here’s the neat part: anyone who unironically thinks china or russia are communist is a dumbass and can be ignored or is trolling.

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  • [–] [S] 45 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    China and russia being communist is an American right wing talking point.

    No leftists consider the russian federation communist, and not even the cpc considers china communist. They claim to be attempting to realise communism by first developing socialism to the point that they can.

    Whether you believe them or not aside, you're sort of showing your ignorance. Even the scary tankies on hexbear and ml or whatever don't think they're communist. That's why the term actually existing socialism (aes) is aes and not aec.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    i made no indication i believed them or them to be communist. i was speaking of how trollish those who claim china/russia is communist are. they’re almost always “libertarians” or some form of boomer.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Some of us are just tired of western people not wanting to get a little nuance about none western countries. And the instance you admit that ofcourse no place is perfect you get hit with. "See x is bad, communism can't work in reality." It is tiresome and eventually I end up defaulting to standard answers or blocking people if they are rude.

    On top of that I do think it is amazing how for instance India, China and Vietnam has improved the lives of billions, but every single time it hit western news it is followed by "but at what price".

    And finally I have realized that things are not always as they seem and the propaganda machine makes it hard to discern the reality of many things. This goes for everything. I have no clue if it actually is dangerous to go USA or it just seem that way.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm fine with someone having a negative opinion of China so long as they don't use that as a purity test and demand everyone else denounce China, calling people "fascists" or "tankies" and refusing to work with them otherwise.

    Obviously, the vast majority of people on here don't live in China, and we generally have bigger fish to fry domestically to worry about meddling in their affairs. I would turn the question around and ask why people are so invested in making sure everyone sufficiently condemns China instead of working together to address the more pressing matter of class conflict.

    If they didn’t brigade those issues so much, straight up ban people, just because they disagree, or hlrefuse to have any real discussion that doesn’t center on just shutting other people down, then maybe people outside their group might take them more seriously.

    This is exactly how I feel about a lot of anti-China spaces. It's difficult to have a real discussion about almost any topic related to China because if you suggest that anything about them isn't the worst thing ever you get accused of being a fascist and dismissed, if not banned. If .ml goes too far in the other direction, then it is at least somewhat unique in doing so, and it's worthwhile to have a space where non-mainstream perspectives can be discussed.

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  • I’m fine with someone having a negative opinion of China so long as they don’t use that as a purity test and demand everyone else denounce China, calling people “fascists” or “tankies” and refusing to work with them otherwise.

    There are people who think China is actively imperialist instead of a semi periphery country and is as bad as the US and Western Europe, or even that they're worse, and that China deserves to be balkanized and beaten down. Those people are not leftists, they are Western chauvinists.

    Then there are people who may have a negative opinion on China, but will defend China against imperialist extraction and aggression. Those people are leftists that don't like China.

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    [–] 77 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Unfortunately half of them are tankies larping as commies

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    [–] 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Communists? On my equally shared, federated social media!? No way!

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (57 children)

    Damn communists! They ruined communism!

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    [–] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

    If communism is a failed system, why does the US keep going after communist places? Surely they're not a threat right? 🤔

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    [–] 30 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    You gotta remember that no one except known communists are pitched lemmy on the basis that it's developed by a communist. Everyone else gets that fact omitted.

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    [–] 28 points 2 months ago

    Transgender Anti-War Communists, no less.

    The only thing scarier is a Muslim Mayor.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (46 children)

    Wouldn't be surprised if new users actually complain about them, pretty much all the 'communists' here are obnoxious nationalist larpers

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    [–] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    : Person posts something about communism.

    : Buncha people in the comments inevitably say the same stale, dumb things about communism.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    yeah but HASAN PIKER!!!

    screams in terror

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, yeah, communists, whatever. Did you know that some people still pretend to be Finnish here?

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Is it at least of the luxurious gay space kind?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    The less polite ones don't even ask you first!

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago*

    This is really it.

    There's the fascist-owned platforms...most notably truthsocial, but definitely also X and Meta and all their platforms as well. I'd also say spez has absolutely bent the knee...several times. Fuck /u/spez.

    And then there's the communist-operated platforms. Lemmy, and basically the entire fediverse.

    I wouldn't say all instances are communist operated, certainly .ml, but many of them are just liberal, socialist, technohippies. (A term that I just coined now, and would gleefully apply to myself)

    Only reddit still gets any of my traffic, and that's largely out of muscle-memory.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    People really don't care about communists - it's the authoritarian boot licker we have a problem with.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    Some of these comments are far too long.

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