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[–] 6 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

"pay double for smart version, then get fucked."

Previously it was "pay double for same quality but more popular brand". How far advertising has progressed that people sign up for this willingly.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It is always interesting to see that this scumbag corporate behavior is only made possible by the people handing them over money.

    It is the same with advertising, if i didnt know any better it appears like people want advertisements all the time.

    We, the people, are always outraged. However, we, the people, also arent willing to do anything about it. The power is in our hands.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It's a matter of thresholds and quantities. The business doesn't need everybody to consent to its existence. It just needs to raise enough money to continue existing. And it only needs to continue existing long enough to gobble up the competition so the choice can't be made between them and an alternative retailer the choice must be instead made between getting the thing from them or not getting the thing.

    Plenty of us can opt out of patronizing these institutions but that doesn't Force change. That's what government is for.

    We aren't going to be able to vote with our wallets hard enough to change business practices that are abusive and toxic. We're going to need the government to do that. That's a substantial part of its job.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago*

    I agree. I aggressively abstain from devices that can spy on me. But the pressure to cave mounts more and more as the monopolies do their best to leave us no choice. I don't think I could buy a new car that does not use the cell network to transmit all my data back to the manufacture for example. Even when it comes to just basic activities like going to a sporting event or booking a campsite I'm often forced to either use my phone or not go at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago*

    These consumers paid for a product that was very clearly shit the moment they attached AI or 'smart' branding to it.

    This is a reminder that, while they are not all equally as responsible as these corporations; the consumer is just as much a part of the problem.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'll take my dumb gadgets over this smart bs any day, thanks.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 days ago* (6 children)

    Samsung has apologized and will send engineers over the Chuseok break.

    Yeah? Will those Samsung engineers also replace my spoiled food? Of course not, shame on me for buying an AI fridge I guess

    Fuckers

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    If I bought an AI Fridge and this happened, I would most certainly immediately decide and accept "This is the direct consequence of my choices. This is my fault. I had this coming. I deserve this."

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    What can an AI do for our fridge? I asked myself as I swiped my credit card for a multi thousand dollar purchase. Surely it must do something. Surely this must be an improvement on a dumb box that keeps things cold. I want to talk to my dumb box that keeps things cold, this is certainly a good idea.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Now being serious, and not reading about it, my best guess would be automated invertory ledger. Looking what you take and in what quantities, what you put in etc. and holding that. Coupled with you marking what shit should not go "out of stock", fridge then can inform you if last piece is taken via on-door screen or an app.

    Like, ding dong, Lizzy took last piece of "fuck my life cheese". xD

    That could be the best for ADHD folks, lol

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago

    i think the only way to have this is if you actually build it yourself from some kind of open source diy kit, because no company would ever sell something like this unless it could turn it into a subscription that will brick itself if you stop paying >.<

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I'm assuming that the AI fridge helps you skip the ads that your IoT smart fridge plays?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    You'd think so!

    Unfortunately it just permanently listens to everything going on in your house, tracks every family member's sleep cycles, eating habits, evaluates your household income based on how often it is restocked and what your brand loyalties are, then feeds all that information to a third party advertising company who sell it to the highest bidder and split the profits with smasnug before showing everyone in the home exactly the right ads to manipulate them into buying more slop.

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  • [–] 188 points 3 days ago (29 children)

    A refrigerator should never need an update. Smart appliances are the stupidest shit I ever heard of. A refrigerator should not need anything but an outlet and maybe a water connection.

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  • [–] 92 points 3 days ago (23 children)

    look, i wouldn't mind a dashboad where i could see when the dishwasher was run, that the rinse fluid is low, the temperature in the fridge ans freezer over time, how many times the ice machine refilled, when the AC on....

    smart devices could have been cool.

    what we got was the ability for the power company to turn of my fridge, requiring a broken app to run cycles on a dishwasher, and spying for no benefit in every device.

    The idea has promise and i hold a small glimmer of hope for home assistant. But, like so many things companies did not give anyone what they wanted.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    One of the reasons techies are burning out is because they are tired of seeing the promise of a new tech and watching it be used to enable surveillance.

    For a fridge the functionality as an appliance shouldn’t be linked to the functionality as a device with a web browser. Ice bucket low? Sensor sends signal to app, fine. But the fridge doesn’t need to know that; it can keep using the float switch or whatever it used to before “smart”. Temperature tracking same thing - bolt a sensor and hook it to the app, but don’t use that app and sensor to control the fridge.

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    [–] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Don't buy AI hardware 😂 My god the stupidity.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    They just have to add useless shit into something like a fridge and make everything "smart". The profit margins must be so slim on any kind of standard house appliance. They can't just seel a fridge that just keeps your food cold, isn't too expensive, noisy, etc... because most of the offer that and they need this summers buzzword to stand out, or even to please the investors.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    I mean, you bought an AI fridge. That's on you.

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    I hope for $3000 it has a digital clock on the door. I mean, what's the point in living if my fridge isn't an alarm clock?

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  • [–] 47 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN THIS RIDICULOUS INEVITABILITY

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  • [–] 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    What is the benifit of AI in devices like fridges, washing machines and dish washers? We've had these devices for years now, even a 40 year old machine works flawlessly, just uses a bit excessive power. A fridge needs to cool, a washing machine needs to clean. They don't need to do anything else, and they did this perfectly when we didn't have AI.

    So to my understanding, AI implemented into these machines is just a way to make it more expensive to buy, adds the option for a subscription for constant income acting as a paywall, gives the opportunity to hoard loads of data from the customers and makes it easy to brick the device just after warranty so people buy more of your devices.

    TL:DR:

    • Manufacturer benefits: 4
    • Consumer benefits: -4
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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago* (1 child)

    I can only think of one good reason, and only for a refrigerator: Fridges could tell you what's inside without opening them and order shit for you automatically when low on something.

    But that would require the AI to not suck complete ass at doing those things. You're better off with just making the door see through and ordering shit when you see something low with your own eyeballs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Ah yes, that would work great when you eat every day exactly the same. Also, telling you what's inside without opening the door is a major improvement. I mean, you could pull a muscle opening the door. And it would save you a lot of time. The screen uses a lot more pwoerr though, but the extra money it costs per year is worth it when you have to open the door less.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    It's part of a social model that needs everyone to work, even if said work has negative value.

    We as a species have the resources to create a leisure society for all.

    Instead we are trying to make conscious fridges that can't freeze things.

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    [–] 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    This is dumb, but what's even dumber is making a device that can even fail in that way to start with. I'd have expected the core refrigerator function to be isolated in some way from the rest of the device.

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    [–] 57 points 3 days ago* (5 children)

    It is a really poor design choice to tie the smart screen to the core function of the refrigerator. They apparently haven't heard of the idea of fail safe.

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    [–] 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    I've spent 20 days waiting for a part from China to (hopefully) repair my 18 year old very basic fridge because I refuse to get some stupid fucking touchscreen internet connected advertising box.

    I fucking hate the modern world.

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    [–] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Nothing. Is made. Correctly. Anymore. I went to school for industrial design, and I can comfortably say design and how to communicate proper use are fucking dead. Some thing or website or service is made wrong every fucking time I turn around. It is relentless and unreal.

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    [–] 7 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Never buy Samsung appliances.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago*

    The refrigerators are truly terrible.

    All their other appliances are perfectly fine. Just don't connect them to the internet. In fact, don't connect any of your appliances to the internet. Ever.

    I had a client who bought a house with a Whirlpool double oven that connected to the internet, and it locked itself out because it thought the oven had been stolen.

    I had to replace the control panel. It cost $1,100.

    Is there some sort of epidemic of people stealing double ovens from homes? Why does a double oven need a touchscreen and a Wi-Fi connection? It even has a sensor for the ambient temperature in the kitchen.

    An oven is supposed to do one thing: heat your food. That's it. It shouldn't be able to prepare your teenager for the SATs.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago

    Boy Lois, this is worse than the time the AI fridge called me a fatass.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I have smart lights that can be controlled over the internet.
    If the internet connection goes down, I can also control them locally.
    If the local network fails, I have physical light switches.

    All smart devices should fail into a safe and functional mode when the smart features inevitably stop working. It seems Samsung doesn't subscribe to that philosophy.

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    [–] 16 points 2 days ago

    I blame Gilfoyle. Fucking Gilfoyle.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    If you buy a refrigerator that needs an internet connection, you deserve this tbh

    It's a box that makes stuff cold for ffs ain't no damn 1s or 0s required

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