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[–] 197 points 4 days ago (30 children)

"I'm neither right not left" = far-right. Always.

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  • [–] [S] 70 points 4 days ago (22 children)

    Yep, it's called Fish Hook Theory:

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  • [–] 87 points 4 days ago (17 children)

    Note that there is no such theory outside of Internet slang. There is no merit in it. Just as horseshoe theory is without merit. There are complex, underlying causes for it making so much sense, but do not be baited by comfort.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 days ago

    Some green parties tried the same nonsense for a while, though I think they all admit to being left by now. The argument was that they'd work independently of party blocks with climate as the only issue.

    Of course right wing politics are always an environmental disaster, but sometimes you would see unusual constellations in local politics.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Reminder that the Nazis literally called themselves National Socialists. They were the opposite of course and swiftly destroyed any trace of socialism once they were in power. That's what far-rights do.

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    [–] 96 points 4 days ago (26 children)

    Centrists are just closeted right wingers that don’t want to be criticized for their right wing views.

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    [–] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Like the DEMOCRATIC people's republic of Korea.

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    [–] 63 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    Fascists often hate being called right wing. It comes from a lack of self-awareness and general lack of emotional intelligence. If you can't understand other people and their views, you are inclined to see your own position as the reasonable center. There are also, of course, some fascists who cynically portray themselves as the center, knowing full well what they really are. The leaders of AfD and the Reform UK are examples.

    Analogously, people on the right often use the word "political" as a derogation. They hate the idea of their beliefs being political, preferring to call them "common sense".

    In a nutshell, there is a commonality across many people on the right of being unable to empathize and understand perspectives outside their own. This is why they always view their own use of government benefits as justified while others are thieves or criminals, and why anyone different from them is a threat.

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    [–] 42 points 4 days ago* (13 children)

    Meeting of the Centrist-Moderate Coalition (2026)

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    I mean, the joke of the 1930s was that National Socialism absolutely was a centrist position between Monarchism and Communism. They struck a chord with central Europeans by advocating a broad ethnic sovereignty that expanded the "in-group" of would-be aristocrats while still flattering the egos of chauvinists and religious bigots. Fascism takes the founding myths of the aristocracy and extends it to a subset of the proletariat as a means of mobilizing them as a large populist unit.

    The end result is a militant faction far larger and more industrial than the royalist elites, but one that still has scapegoats and class enemies among the various minorities and small neighbors on the periphery. It really is a philosophy that lives at the "center" of the historical political discourse.

    You just have to come at it recognizing politics (particularly in Europe) as even more narrow and reactionary than what Fascists advocated for publicly. You also have to recognize Fascism as fundamentally unstable and quick to collapse, either into a more egalitarian socialism or a more hierarchical aristocracy, once it exhausts itself of minorities and neighbors to plunder.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    Centrists find value in conservative politics and entertain them. We have known for a very long time now, including having had access to the fucking book it’s from, that it is designed to screw over poor people and benefit the owner class. You don’t need to be a full-blown communist but all centrist politics have ever amounted to has been “I won’t directly attack gay people but I won’t stop anyone, either, and I will shake hands and laugh with the people that want them dead.”

    Fuck centrists. Buncha spineless losers.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    In a similar vein: Denmark has the "Radical Left" party, which is centrist (liberal). It is an offshoot of that "Left" party which is also liberal - Or was supposed to be, its really just a front for agriculture lobbies.

    The naming comes from when the left/right was about support for the king and since these parties represent the interests of the bourgoisie they did not support the king. It is funny these days though since the left/right is about support for capitalism, so bit of a misnomer to have a "radical left" party with a social-liberal ideology lol.

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    [–] 19 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    Who'da thunk that fence sitters would be right-wing?

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    [–] 21 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    It gets better they went bankrupt in 1986 then a second party Centre Party '86 was created went down the same path and was banned in 1998. Then there was New National Party (Netherlands) which went down the same path again and dissolved in 2005. Ive pulled this info off the Wikipedia pages so I am in no way a expert on this topic I just found the series of events funny

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    Not typical for parties wearing that name. That being said the German Zentrum (CxU predecessor) did in fact happily vote with the NSDAP in favour of the enabling Act which was the major turning point in establishing Nazi Germany.

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