They closed radio shack cuz they didnt want us building our own open tech. You can't change my mind
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This is what those dementia towns are going to be based on when we old old
Blockbuster
Radio Shack
Pizza Hut
AOL
When did we outsource our shared culture to corporate identities as shorthand for those shared experiences? Is this meme secretly causing me to rethink how much of my nostalgia is for consumer behavior driven by corporate marketing, so ubiquitous that everything we'd later remember as common interests and backgrounds was just how we spent our money?
I have to rethink everything for a little bit. Maybe I should sit down.
Dude we got dropped off at the mall to hang out with our friends. The place where 100 different stores were all owned by 7 different companies. The fucking mall.
When did we outsource our shared culture to corporate identities as shorthand for those shared experiences
Some time during the 80s. I think it was one of Reagan's first bills
On one hand, my town didn’t have a Blockbuster, but an independent video rental store. I still call it Blockbuster when i talk about it because it being the point across. So sometimes it’s just a short hand.
On the other, you really have a point. Personally, I am trying to be more mindful of decoupling “good times” from consumerism. The last two dates I had with my partner were mostly walking around chatting. I like having people over for board games, or going to the park. All zero or low cost activities that have been collectively pushed put of the “cool zone” by, I would guess, consumerism.
Amish 2 with a focus on 90s early internet culture?
AIMish
Spat my beer out. Thank you.
Hear me out... what if we do democracy 2.0 and we actually remove capitalism/religion from the picture entirely? Who's with me?
You guys joke but I would do this in a heart beat
I think a commune based on a less jokey version of this where instead of rejecting all post 90s tech you reject like very specific things, or specific use cases of tech, would be pretty awesome. Like you could have electronics but no internet. Just your own intranet with self maintained message boards, and a library of PDFs/MP3s/Movies and TV. Stuff like that.
I want internet, but only at home on a desktop pc. Get this pocket internet out of here
It's called "The Matrix". Based on the 1990's peak of human civilization "to accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of 'our' nature."
And anything better we rejected according to the machines (well guess they don't say they tried incremental improvements in the matrix)....looks at the world huh seems accurate, I so thought we were on turning things for better back then, having more inclusive shows (though they were stereotyped it felt more inclusive).
Also yes I know other issues but things were mostly progressing in a positive manner for acceptance. Used to party with such cool people of all types and it was awesome we had fun, people of all types enjoying their time. Maybe the drugs helped but regardless it was Fun!
In the end the aggro of the white wing (sorry right wing) of politics is polluting any acceptance for creating division. Mean they were starting back then but not as much traction it feels like. I just hope we as humans can figure out we're all humans and more similar than different to get along before we nuke our civilization.
What if I told you no one's stopping you from canceling the internet at your house and living like it's still the 90's. Go to the library, get your DVD's, get a TV antenna, use signal instead of social media. RSS is still supreme.
At this point I'm just listing what I've been doing, but God it feels nice
Except that ostricizes you from your community peers. The point of these “communes” is to be able to live with others who share your lifestyle and be able to talk and share.
I do most of these things and am still connected to my community. My “online social” is here, limited as it may be (on purpose), and my real community is in real life, where the internet is kind of irrelevant (or when it does come up, is mostly meme sharing)
It's hard to get other people off the bad parts of the Internet.
It's very hard to get businesses to stop exclusively posting stuff on Instagram.
Even the 90s was already 2 decades into Neoliberalism and median incomes and quality of life were already degraded from the peak.
Yesterday I was watching the film "The End Of Oak Street" and it started as this whole dream suburbia life, about a couple with two children and they lived in a nice good-sized suburban house, and I was thinking "bullshit!".
Then it turns out the guy had lost his job and was earning money one the side to keep going by doing pizza delivery. "Complete total bullshit!"
Now from the clothes, the cars and so on it didn't look like present day but some point in the past. At the end of the film we find out the story took place in 1981.
Even then, not so sure pizza delivery was enough to just barelly keep paying for that back then - maybe if the house was already fully paid.
(Mind you, it was pretty realistic in that there wasn't a single black person living in that suburban "dream").
Look at the Historical Economic data from the US, most notably Equality, Median (NOT the mean) Incomes, Social Mobility and in the US it all starts falling in the 1970s, a bit later in most of the rest of the West except Eastern Europe (which was under the control of the Soviet Union back then and thus had it's own problematic trajectory), first slow but accelerating after 2-3 decades with the last 1-2 decades being quite a fast fall.
Quite literally the peak prosperity for the common American was back in the late 60s/early 70s and by the 90s things were already worse than that, though since the fall was accelerating most of the collapse in purchasing power and quality of life for average person happened afterwards.
Pretty much. The explosion of video and computer technology did a lot to mask the shrinking economic benefits for many.
Also the growth in indebtness: the levels of debt in the economy exploded and in fact nowadays even most money creation is done as debt (here is a paper from the Bank Of England on it). Basically as incomes fell, people started replacing it with debt some overall debt in the Economy went up, especially Consumer Debt (i.e. loans taken to buy consumer goods) which is now at historical record levels.
This is the reason behind the 2008 Crash and for why the ultra-low interest rates set by Central Banks in the aftermath of it managed to delay the consequences of all those economic inbalances for another decade even though there was no meaningful restructuring of the Financial and Economic systems.
Economic policy in the last couple of decades has been little more than kick the ball forwards to try and delay the day or reckoning for the chasm between what Neoliberalism promised for the many and what it actually delivered and, well, here we are with all over the World massive bubbles in essentials such as Housing, Fascists getting elected into power and people demonstrating on the streets - welcome to the Find Out stage.
I was a teenager in the 90s, so my brain would surely love it, but I am still in the "make it like this yourself now, because that's what I am doing" camp.
I like having a huge OLED TV and a Jellyfin server running on a PC with several processor cores, TBs of storage, GBs of RAM, and MBs of processor cache. I like that I can GPS navigate, take a video, text my family, or look up any information on earth on a whim thanks to the phone in my pocket.
But I also actively avoid a lot of my technology for much of the day. When I am home, I often don't have my phone on me and I spend a lot of time working on things outside. It's not unlike playing in the creek or in the woods in the 90s.
We all know that the key is often moderation with these things. Simple sayings like that often have profound truth behind them, after all. The problem is that some of the richest people and richest corporations on the planet have poured an unfathomable amount of resources into turning our technological advancements into addictive products designed to engage and retain attention.
You can have the same kind of existence, but now you have to intentionally pursue it and put effort into it. You can't just passively exist in that world like we remember doing.
Lan parties with Red alert?
Nah. IRC and icq, screw aol.
We can has buttons on our phones again, removable battery, and 7 day battery life?

In the 90s we also had ICQ, remember ohoh :)
How about:
No internet. Everyone runs a reticulum mesh network, HaLow to the houses, LoRa on mobile. We work out Video/Music service by private torrent.
Radioshack is replaced by an AliExpress store that carries maker gear and mesh radio hardware and a full compliment of components, fab tools and a community discount to JLPCB
Tangential to this, some cities are starting to have Luddie clubs. NYC, LA, probably SF too. Look into it and start your local. “Summer of Ludd” is a good search term to learn more.
Fuck yeah. Half-Life, Team Fortress, X-Com, C&C, etc will be your top games forever.
With good modding community I can live with that.
Can we get 90s cars there too? I can't stand super high vehicles and dangerously bright headlights.
I'm all in on neo-Amish, where do I sign up?
Amish 2: (non-)electric boogaloo
Going back to the 90s not eating animal products would be rough.
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