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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 1 hour ago

"Holding off"? No, I can't afford it. I'd love to own a home but my wage doesn't keep up with inflation.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 30 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

because the previous generation were all robber barons that drained the world for their personal gain at the expense of the children they insisted on having.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 minutes ago

Can't wait to take care of them in their adult diapers too.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 34 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Been unable to afford a house since I first tried avocado toast circa 2008

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago

It must be because of those dang woke DEI!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Wages didn't increase at the rate of inflation for like 80 years. The USA is now a shithole country in general and emigration out has reached all time highs, kids don't want to buy homes here. All of the overseas investors looking to purchase US properties no longer trust in the USA due to volatility due to an actual dictatorship forming and heavy fines and tariffs being put in place by countries on either side of the issue.

I could go on.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 41 points 13 hours ago

Article title writer pictured here

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My household income is well above the median in my area. Besides a bit of student loans, I have no other debt. I'm doing pretty well compared to most people my age, financially.

I still needed an FHA and down payment assistance to squeak into the cheapest house on the market that wasn't a trailer

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 7 points 4 hours ago

I know a few millennial homeowners, and almost every one falls into one of two categories: they were gifted the home (or down payment) from a family member; or they married a Gen-X doctor in 2007 and bought right after the market crashed in 2008 and they've watched their home value quadruple since then.

That's it. Have family that's well-off enough, or marry someone that had money at the right time to exploit a financial disaster.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

Because those who make the rules don't want you to own shit.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I know no one really asked this question.

  • Average house price in Q1 2025 was $500,000.
  • $100k down at 6.5% with great credit and monthly payments of $3180 for 30yrs.

How many people can say they will have a job that pays that well for 30 yrs?

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ASPUS

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 29 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

$100k down

Fucking LMAO

"Yeah, before you buy, we want an amount of money you will never have at any one point in your entire life before we consider thinking about suggesting a mortgage to you"

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 14 hours ago

Oh....you poor bastard. Now you can pay the PMI and your morrgage will be around $4400 a month. You can save up $15-20k and refi when rates go down.

Welcome to renting for ever.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Unless you live near a major city. Then you double the price of housing.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 18 hours ago

WE ARE ALL FUCKING POOR

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

They will never acknowledge it unless they are made to

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 53 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Probably the same reason megacorporatins are turning in record profit, year over year, and a very few people have increased their income by several billions of dollars, but that's just a guess. 💁

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget about the corporations that are buying as many houses a quick as possible (faster than a person who will have a mortgage can) and at a higher price than what a person can/will pay becaue they are using them as investments.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 16 hours ago

Absolutely!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 140 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

House expensive and job no pay enough.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 106 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

People aren't paid enough. The rich have too large a portion of the resources.

Eat the rich. Bury their collaborators.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago

Stop the food waste. Collaborators can be eaten too.

[–] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Bury them where? I can't afford a plot of land :(

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 7 hours ago

Ocean it is

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The worst part is that I am getting paid a salary I could have only dreamed about years ago, and yet I still can't afford anything with how drastically everything went up in price.

Wages in general have gone up a little bit, but it's crazy to me that I'm earning more than 5x as much as I used to 15 years ago and feel like my buying power has not noticeably improved at all. I'm still stuck living in crappy apartments because that is all I can afford.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly! My partner and I together make over $100,000 a year and finally we are just barely comfortable. All of our bills get paid and even though the budget is tight, we still have a little money and decent credit. I could put a $1,000 guitar on credit and pay that off no problem, but there's no way we could get a house.

Maybe if our wages doubled then we could find something further out in the sticks. Hopefully by that time more companies allow full remote work because I already lose an hour or more a day traveling.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Companies demanding return to office is such a twist of the knife. It's a pay cut, making someone spend an hour or two commuting without paying them for it. But the boss doesn't care

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Maintenance, gas, car insurance, more expensive food, tolls, parking, and time. It's a massive paycut for many people when you really think about it.

[–] oliver@lemmy.pifferi.io 9 points 13 hours ago

Because the common citizens will have more problems than buying a house after the Orange Goblin and his fellow criminals started to irrevocably dismantle the nation forever? 🤔

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 49 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

oh we know why, it’s not a mystery to anyone who talks to the average american worker. we are criminally underpaid for our labor and it gets worse the younger the generation is. millennials are more poor than their parents’ generation, and gen z will likely end up poorer than millennials.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Homes are fucking expensive. I couldn't afford to buy a house in most markets at current prices. I have no idea how people are able to buy homes today.

Even my neighbor down the street...1st home for him, wife, and 2 year old kid. He tried to sell because he didn't understand how property taxes worked. The previous owner of 30 years payed 1.5K a year. He bought the home and was hit with a 15K tax bill. He couldn't afford it and thought his bill would also be 1.5K. The closing agent and real estate agent didn't explain anything to him. They were just happy to collect commission and fees on a very expensive house.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This doesn't make sense to me.

In my state the bank pays the property taxes. Its included in the monthly mortgage and goes into an escrow account for taxes.

I guess the rules vary by state.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The bank usually pays taxes and Insurance from the escrow account. You pay into escrow every month. If insurance goes up, so does the amount you pay into escrow

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That is only if your mortgage was written that way. I don't know if mortgages are "usually" written that way, but only my first mortgage had an escrow account.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Escrow isn't a requirement. The only requirement is that you pay your taxes and insurance whether you have someone else doing it or do it yourself.

What varies from place to place is how property taxes are calculated. Many places "lock you in" to a rate when you buy and only reassess when the property changes hands. In my state, the rate just increases by 3% every year regardless of whether you sell or not so nobody is hit with a big surprise bill.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Some places cap property tax increases per year, or even have a flat rate based on purchase price (or appraisal?) that never goes up… until you sell the house to someone new. Then the tax gets recalculated based on the current value of the house. So if the price of the house went up 10x in those 30 years, the tax is going to be 10x higher. It’s actually beneficial to the taxpayer IMO to have a consistent predictable tax that doesn’t go up over time if your neighborhood gets gentrified or whatever and home prices skyrocket.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

That part makes more sense. In my state the tax on the house goes up. It's not locked like that.

I feel like it's an oversight to not calculate the new tax rate and include it as cost to the buyer.

The bank losses out on the loan if you foreclose on it. They make money on the interest not the sale.

The only one who makes out on a bad sale like that is the realtor.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago

Ah, a Californian

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A house is a huge liability. If i lose my job, what do i do about the debt? It's the job market uncertainty that i fear more than the current pay levels, tbh.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 20 points 17 hours ago

House is an asset. Mortgage is a liability. Having one without the other is now a dream.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Because the only part of the economy doing well is home values

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking wonder. Maybe I can ask Grok.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Grok: "It's the Joos. Heil Hitler!"

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

A 7% interest rate doesn’t help

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

We bought in 2020 and have a 2.875% rate on our mortgage. We only put 10% down and had PMI but the broker was all, "you can refinance to get rid of that".

I asked him when in the world we'd ever be able to refinance at or below that rate? He had nothing to say to that.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 22 points 20 hours ago

capitalism. there. article done.

[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 26 points 21 hours ago
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