Absolutely needed: to get high efficiency for this beast ... as it gets better, we'll become too dependent.

"all of this growth is for a new technology that’s still finding its footing, and in many applications—education, medical advice, legal analysis—might be the wrong tool for the job,,,"

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[–] 78 points 1 year ago (51 children)

as it gets better

Bold assumption.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (48 children)

    Historically AI always got much better. Usually after the field collapsed in an AI winter and several years went by in search for a new technique to then repeat the hype cycle. Tech bros want it to get better without that winter stage though.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    AI usually got better when people realized it wasn't going to do all it was hyped up for but was useful for a certain set of tasks.

    Then it turned from world-changing hotness to super boring tech your washing machine uses to fine-tune its washing program.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Like the cliché goes: when it works, we don't call it AI anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    The major thing that killed 1960s/70s AI was the Vietnam War. MIT's CSAIL was funded heavily by DARPA. When public opinion turned against Vietnam and Congress started shutting off funding, DARPA wasn't putting money into CSAIL anymore. Congress didn't create an alternative funding path, so the whole thing dried up.

    That lab basically created computing as we know it today. It bore fruit, and many companies owe their success to it. There were plenty of promising lines of research still going on.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    The energy issue almost feels like a red herring for distracting all idiots from actual AI problems and lemmy is just gobbling it up every day. It's so tiring.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    lemmy is just gobbling it up every day. It's so tiring.

    Are you fucking serious? All I ever see on Lemmy is prople saying "AI slop" over and over and over and over again... in like every comment section of every post. It could be a picture that was actually hand-drawn, or a photograph that was definitely not AI, or articles written by someone "sounding like AI". The AI hate on Lemmy is WAY overpowering any support.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    How does crypto mining play into all of the electrical need? I know they used to use a butt load.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I found this article from last year: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61364

    Our preliminary estimates suggest that annual electricity use from cryptocurrency mining probably represents from 0.6% to 2.3% of U.S. electricity consumption.

    The wide range should not be too surprising, it's a mess to keep track of, especially with the current administration. Since then, with Trump immediately pledging to support the "industry", I can only imagine it consuming even more now.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    Solar powered server farms in space. Self-powered, self-cooling, 'outside the environment'. Is this a stupid idea?

    Edit: So it would seem the answer is yes. Good chat :) Thanks.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don’t understand the self-cooling. Isn’t it harder to keep things cool in space since there is no conduction or convection cooling? I mean everything is in a vacuum. The only place for heat to go is radiative and that’s terribly inefficient. Seems like a massive engineering problem.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    You can cool servers way better on Earth than you can in space. Down here you can transfer heat away from the server with conduction and convection, but in space you really only have radiation. Cooling spacecraft is an engineering challenge. One might imagine a server stuck inside a glass thermos that's sitting out in the sun.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    If the end goal is so little Timmy can ask a robot if nazis exist and it spits out misinformation or so Ai bots can flood social media with endless regurgitated bullshit, then no, it's just more garbage in space.

    Ai is interesting,... necessary? A lot of people can be fed and housed for the cost of giant, experimental solar powered Ai computers in space so that they have more excuses not to pay people a living wage.

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