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[–] 76 points 4 months ago (17 children)

We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Neither confirming or denying: that may be the plot line of the recent maul series on Disney+

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

    It’s also the plot in a couple of legends and canon books too.

    People like to bash the palpatine coming back, but it’s actually a well thought out storyline in the books. A lot of stuff gets lost between the books and the movies though, the whole episode 3 book has a totally different feel than the movie. A whole arc is missing about why he’s so mad to not get the rank of master.

    Palpatine was telling Anakin the Jedi masters had the secret to eternal life and it would save padme.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    We're talking about the two halves of Maul being lovers, right?

    Right?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Hrmm I don’t think I’ve gotten to that story yet. But anything is possible.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    People bash Palpatine coming back because it was not well thought out in the movies. They could have set it up easily in the PT what with all the allusions to the Force being able to be used to influence life and death. Then you have two movies in ST to play with before a big reveal in the final film. But unfortunately all the trilogies were too disconnected from each other, with the ST being too disconnected within itself.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Machinery in the Star Wars universe seems to be aware to an extent. Why? What’s the threshold? If I just build a head is that enough? If I just build a torso, is that enough? What about Luke’s cybernetic arm? It seemed to act of its own volition on a couple of occasions.

    There’s an issue with cross pollination, too. Maul’s upper half was attached to a crawler droid and he thought he was some cave spider. 3PO’s head was on a battle droid body and he started developing a bloodlust for combat.

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    [–] 38 points 4 months ago (24 children)

    So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine.

    Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to return through the force to Luke.

    Perhaps part of the reason that this technique is not more wide spread is because it inherently weakens ones determination to survive.

    The Sith cannot transcend death in this way. They must pour their power into clinging on to life.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'm pretty sure Anakin showing up as a force ghost kind of disproves the fact that the sith need to do that because that awesome motherfucker only repented for like 30 seconds before he died.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ?

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    He stopped being a Sith and then mastered the technique really fast by being a chosen one. It's like that one scene in Kung Fu Panda 2

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

    That's where the controversy comes into play. Cuz the whole force ghost mechanics were written after similar to midicloreans....

    There's basically a few explainations.

    1. It's part of his redemption

    2. His midicloreans... / natural affinity with the force

    3. His connection with obiwan, quigon, yoda who all helped him trancend.

    4. Makes for a good ending. (The original reason probs)

    ...

    In an alternate timeline where Lucas finished all 9 movies I could see him re-releasing the movies with some choice edits. Similar to this but a little less tongue in cheek.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    it inherently weakens one’s determination to survive

    This is a good point. Aren’t Jedis quite selfless though? I would think that they would already not prioritize their own survival over other principles.

    When you work on dissolving the self, one big benefit is you stop freaking out so much about death. You recognize that even though you’re locked into this very narrow subjective experience, it’s still one cell in a much larger process which will endure after your death. It becomes much less “the end of everything.”

    I would guess that Jedis are totally there and wouldn’t change any of their choices based on whether their little subjective consciousness will cling to existence or not.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    There were a lot of moments of the Obi-Wan series that I liked. The whole first episode was great, Ben surviving in his new life in the desert. Loved when he explained the Force to Leia, it felt very OT. Some great Anakin/Obi-Wan moments.

    That said, I'm currently reading the Kenobi novel and I'm loving it so far. I think I much prefer it to the series.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Unpopular opinion here but I think Maul coming back after his defeat/death in Ep.1 was the dumbest thing in all of Star Wars lore. He was a lame villain from the beginning, and his miraculous return was not an improvement.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    To save money the Jedi Council contracted a new lightsaber manufacturing Jedi named Temu

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    [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    The light saber vaccine, of course

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    One of the animated series details how Darth Maul survived. He basically used the Force to cobble a bunch of junk together to serve as his legs. Not like he was gonna bleed out or anything; Lightsabers also cauterize the wounds they inflict.

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    [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    While Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were on Naboo, some elder Jedi mystic discovered the proper technique to survive lightsaber wounds. The information was not dispersed before Qui-Gon met his fate. Truly a dark irony. However, his death and the re-emergence of the Sith prompted the immediate training of this technique to the point that it became common knowledge even among the most green of padawans.

    Or perhaps it’s better to think that maybe Qui-Gon learned this ability while in the Force and has now shared it from beyond the grave, a thing that saved so many Jedi yet could only happen as a result of Qui-Gon’s death.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Charlie Hopkinson has a series on YouTube of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Anakin watching the movies/series. Every lightsaber death and "death" has Qui-Gon complaining again.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    somehow Qui-gon returned.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Jedi trust the Force. Its why they are forbidden from forming attachments. When someone dies, they must accept it, even themselves.

    Maul refused to die. He refused accept the balance of life and death. He survived on the singular hatred for Obi-Wan and, Force be damned, he would have his revenge.

    It's super rad, in my opinion. It makes both Maul and Qui-Gon better versions of what we were shown

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The dark side is a pathway to many abilities that some consider unnatural.

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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    There was once a woman, who almost survived a traumatic hemidemiseptomy, which otherwise is rarely done due to various reasons, mainly that it's rarely needed and needs an absolute strength of will from the recipient to avoid an immediate suicide.

    I guess in a sci-fi setting like Star Wars, they have some robo-lower body for Darth Maul.

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