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TranscriptA Helpful Guide To Star Wars vs Star Trek

Star Wars

[Image of Han Solo in Tommy’s style]

  • Don’t start with the β€˜first’ movie, let me tell you where to start
  • Looks like ruined farm equipment in space
  • In summary: the past was horrible
  • JJ Abrams ruined it

Star Trek

[Image of Jean Luc Picard in Tommy’s style]

  • Don’t start with the first season, let me tell you where to start
  • Looks like a cruise ship in space
  • In summary: the future is incredible
  • JJ Abrams ruined it

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[–] 7 points 6 hours ago*

JJ abrams is responsible for what nutrek is today, all flash and no substance that KURTZMAN happily copied.

pre-disney star wars decent, but not after disney bought the franchise, and turned it intoa slop machine, and its basically just drama in space at least for the current ones.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 hours ago

    The Sequels aren't bad, it's just always been popular to hate on the new Star Wars thing, has been since Empire.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    JJ Abrams
    I think you mean Jar Jar Abrams

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    [–] 15 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

    Absolutely start with the first season of Star Trek! What the fuck kind of nonsense is that? The original series is a gods damned masterpiece! Except for I, Mudd, just skip that one, it sucks.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    The worst episode of TOS is the one with the planet of children where Kirk puts the rizz on a little tweenage girl. I think it's called Miri. Skip that one.

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  • [–] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    TOS is what got me watching almost all of Star Trek in the last 3 years. It was the damn star trek memes on lemmy (when there used to be a lot less content) that made me check it out, and I got hooked. I love me some sci-fi, what can I say

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  • [–] 53 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (28 children)

    I'll die on this hill. JJ Abrams didn't ruin Star Wars. He just didn't do anything new with Star Wars. Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars. He was unwilling to yes-and any of the mystery boxes and plot threads Abrams set up in The Force Awakens and essentially ruined the entire trilogy by burning any plot that could have happened in the third film.

    If nothing else, the complete disrespect to Finn's implied arc was unforgivable. That boy was going to be a Jedi.

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  • [–] 18 points 13 hours ago

    J. J. Abrams established that Star Wars was just a repeating formula rather than a developing story, which would be bad enough, but in order to make the formula repeat he also made it canon that everything that happened in the original trilogy was ultimately meaningless.

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  • [–] 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    If nothing else, the complete disrespect to Finn's implied arc was unforgivable. That boy was going to be a Jedi.

    I must've watched all the wrong trailers because I didn't even know Rey was going to be a character.

    Based on what I saw, I thought "The Force Awakens" was going to be about a disillusioned Storm Trooper who "awakens" as the new Jedi to save the galaxy. Would have been an amazing story of redemption. Instead we got... Well.. You know.

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  • [–] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    The Force Awakens was crap but it tended to get the benefit of the doubt because there were all these mysterious threads that might be going somewhere interesting. But the problem is, JJ Abrams had no clue about where he was going with any of it. That's unforgivable. You need some idea of the story you want to tell. Or just hire a fucking writer ffs. Plenty of people know how to tell a story, JJ Abrams just isn't one of them. I don't want to let Rian Johnson off the hook but it was already on a bad trajectory before he crashed it into the ground.

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    [–] 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    I actually kinda like that Abram's Star Trek takes place in an alternate universe. In that way, it hasn't ruined anything. None of his movies are in the Prime universe.

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  • [–] 8 points 13 hours ago

    And I like that Disney doesn't have mind control drugs (yet?) so I can just consider their shit a seperate universe that Luke hallucinated after banging his head too hard on one of those doors designed more for looking like a cool sci fi door and less for being easy to go through without banging your head.

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  • [–] 71 points 21 hours ago (49 children)
    • The very next guy to do it managed to be much worse than Abrams.
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    [–] 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Ohh, this comment section is gonna be good. 🍿

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