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[–] 37 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

Real: Anon can improve himself by going outside.

Straight: Anon talked to women.

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  • [–] 9 points 20 hours ago

    Anon is gonna be riding that high for the next 10 years.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    > "greentext"
    > look inside
    > red text

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  • [–] 10 points 22 hours ago

    Hopeposting. I was clenching so hard for the plot twist

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago

    Fake: anon talks to women.

    Gay: text isn’t green.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    I got over my fear of talking to pretty girls sometime around my junior year of high school. Having overheard lots of conversations, and from talking to my female* friend across the street, I realized that girls are more like us than not. For example, get 'em talking about sex among themselves and they nasty.

    So I decided I would approach girls same as I would a male peer and damn did that work! I could write an essay, but pretty girls are so used to ass kissing that treating them like one of the guys, ya know, normal, grabs their attention. Ass kissers don't present any sort of challenge, they're boring as paste. Don't be afraid to rib and tease a bit! This is where the idiot notion of "negging" comes from, started as normal flirting, went way too fucking far.

    Going to stop now before I end up with the aforementioned essay.

    * Going to be drug out and shot as an incel, but she was neither a woman nor a girlfriend. "Neighbor girl who was a friend but not my girlfriend" is a mouthful.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago*

    I don't fear speaking with pretty girls because they're pretty girls. I just fear speaking with people because my history of being bullied and being betrayed by friends and being purposefully sabotaged by envious "friends" has made me fear most people. Likely being audhd doesn't help

    We're not the same

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  • [–] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    So I decided I would approach girls same as I would a male peer and damn did that work!

    Turns out the big secret to meeting people of the other gender is to focus on the "people" part.

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  • [–] 4 points 21 hours ago

    Look bud, I was trying to be all wise and longwinded there. I don't need a summation of my bullshit. :)

    But yeah, it was a revelation to me at 16-17. Before that I was the guy in Catch 22 that treated women as angels walking the Earth and was utterly tongue tied before them. Incels apparently didn't get the memo.

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  • [–] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    "Female" is generally okay when used as a adjective (as you did here). It's when you're using it as a noun when talking about humans that you start sounding like a fedora tipping Ferengi.

    You're also probably covered because your advice boils down to "treat people like people"

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  • [–] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Protip: don't use of using an asterisks for footnotes. There is Markdown syntax for that:

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    It gets rendered like this:

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    Note that the footnotes don't have to be at the bottom of the comment. You an put each in a paragraph immediately after its usage, and the Markdown renderer will still put them at the bottom.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    How do you convince yourself that 27 vs 30 is a difference that matters in any way

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  • [–] 26 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    30 is the narrative online where you're pretty much 100 years old. They're convinced once you hit 30 you might as well be her grandpa. The manosphere propaganda feeds off ageism insecurity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It's the cultural narrative of where adulthood begins these days.

    Childhood has been extended through your 20s.

    it used to be 18 in the 1950s.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago

    Current cultural narrative
    Baby: 0–6
    Kid: 7–29
    Adult: 30–39
    Old: 40–49
    Ancient decrepit mummified creature: 50–120

    There's a small window between 30 and 40 that is considered ideal. Everything else suffers from some kind of ageism

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah that’s crazy to think people in your HS cohort are too far in age to you to relate

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 child)

    My nephew is 16. He thinks he can't date a 15 year or its pedophilia. He thinks this because it's what all the other kids his age think and he is terrified of being called a pedo.

    So when a girl who was a grade younger than him asked him out he said no, even though he really liked her, because he didn't want to get socially ostracized for breaking the rules. Awhile later a girl who is 16 flirted with him and he asked her out, but that's cool because they are the same age and there is no 'power imbalance'.

    There is a lot of 'age paranoia' going on in online spaces that has filtered out into the real world, such that an 18 year old dating a 16 year old (which I did when I was in HS) is considered horrible and awful, not normal and acceptable.

    And some folk extend this to various other ages and perceived 'age gaps'. Like 28 year old dating a 24 year old being considered 'predatory' now. It's stupid... but people believe lots of crazy/stupid things and you aren't going to convince them otherwise because they like using age gaps as some sort of measure of moral acceptability for other people's relationships.

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    [–] 124 points 1 day ago (28 children)

    I swear we could de-radicalize young men if this was talked about more. Just say hi to people

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago

    Unfortunately a lot of people don't seem to want to de-radicalize young men. They'll say stuff like "Why should we? They deserve to be miserable."

    It kinda misunderstands the nature of radicalization, and how vulnerabilities and exploits manifest. It can even take on a tinge of victim-blaming, retroactively justifying mistreatment based on their reaction to it

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  • [–] 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    One of the biggest problems is that, outside of early school, there's no real way to practice social interactions in a safe setting. The only real option is jumping straight in. If you're already slightly socially stunted, it can be very easy to mess it up. It only takes a couple of negative reactions to put someone off for a long time.

    I almost fell into the same hole when I was younger. Thankfully I realised what was likely happening and worked on it. I'm still not good at cold approach social interactions, but I can at least now do it without screwing up catastrophically.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    you realize that the inverse is also true.

    a lot of people are radicalized because they say hi to people and get told off for their basic politeness/decency?

    I'm repeatedly shocked at how hostile people are to me the past few years, in a way they never were previously in my entire life. And well, it's because they have been convinced that even when I pick up the wallet they dropped on the ground to give it back to them, I must be 'attacking' them. because they are indoctrinated that all men are evil nonsense.

    and i imagine if I was younger I'd find these experiences a lot more damaging to my psyche, because I might not have ever known a time when being kind to a stranger was considered a threat, like I did when I was young.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    As long as they don't mistake making a new friend with expectations of having a girlfriend. I've had plenty of guy "friendships" which I genuinely thought would last for years, but the moment they noticed I wasn't having sex with them they pulled away to never be heard of. It breaks your heart in a different way.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Speaking from the guy perspective (and not at all to minimize your pain) sometimes pulling away is necessary for managing feelings of rejection and longing; better to pull away than to have a crash out in a year about how her boyfriend isn't you but also still bad. It just sucks all around.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    This is such a self-destructive act. Being friends with women gives you more chances of a) meeting women, and b) actually knowing how to interact with them when you do.

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    [–] 63 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Volunteer work is an amazing way to break cycles of isolation and loneliness. You have a shared common goal with other volunteers and you are making a collective effort to improve the lives of those less fortunate than you. Even if you walk away without having met the love of your life or whatever, at least you can feel good knowing that you helped make the world a better place and got to meet some cool, likeminded people.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 child)

    It's not necessarily true at all.

    Volunteer work can be full of really shitty and awful people who justify their shittiness based of their 'good intentions'.

    I have volunteered my entire life and seen many orgs fail/fall apart due to shitty people getting involved and cannibalizing the org for their own selfish ends, or wanting to turn it into a social club first and a volunteer org second/third.

    It can be rewarding, but a lot of orgs are full of very catty insular people who don't want you to be part of their group unless you look/talk/walk like they do, and you tow whatever 'party' line they believe in, even if it's shitty.

    Someone volunteering doesn't make them automatically a good or a nice person. That's the smokescreen shitty/selfish people use though to justify their crappy behaviour in these orgs.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago* (5 children)

    Volunteer work backfires for a lot of people when they work at like food pantries though. You get a huge amount of entitled rude assholes and it can make you hate the public and/or the destitute

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    [–] 2 points 20 hours ago

    Just a thought… anon is wrong.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 day ago (1 child)
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