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[–] 99 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Find me in my living room, reading aloud SQL injection attacks and AI jailbreak promps like the newsreader from Rome

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    [–] 149 points 4 days ago* (15 children)

    I really hope one day people will look back at those practices the same way we look back at the normality of cigarettes being pushed on everyone back in the 50's.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    what about no. too many people are smoking today.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    i mean, why wouldnt they?

    life sucks, society sucks, world sucks, who wouldnt want to check out faster.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    the same sucky life is even worse with heart disease, not that I don't sympathise with the desire to get out but that's a really dumb way to do it

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    [–] 53 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Samsung is the second Electronics maker I've started boycotted, after Sony.

    Sony was all the way back since the Rootkit scandal, Samsung was about a decade ago when a small tablet I bough from them have filled with unremovable applications and after a few updates became pretty much unusable because it's didn't have enough memory (clearly planned obscolecence).

    Patting myself on back (and a little gloating) aside, Samsung has been clearly abusive towards their customers for a while (it was maybe the second electronics make to enshittify, after Sony) and this is not at all surprising.

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  • [–] 76 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    People should have been imprisoned over the Sony rootkit scandal.

    For those who don't know - their music CDs had malware built in that automatically installed itself on PCs without prompting or notification that gave unsecured root access to any PC through a hidden service that couldn't be detected or disabled from within Windows. It was as bad as bad gets. There was no hidden EULA or anything. They just straight-up installed viruses on millions of PCs that opened the door for other malware to install itself at the root level where it couldn't be detected.

    Sony should have been shut down entirely over it.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Wow. Yeah, fuck Sony. Seems they've always been in a race to the bottom. Now their insistance on a digital-only future makes so much more sense. They want to control any and all access to their products and don't want them changing hands IRL.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    It's even a little worst than parent post makes it seem, it's worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago

    Wow! I remember the thing but never knew all the dirty deals.

    Steve Heckler's quote on Napster sounds like Churchill after Dunkirk, "...we shall fight the users, we shall fight in the firewalls, we shall fight the cable companies and the phone companies, we shall fuck up your PC; we shall never surrender..."

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    [–] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I just want a dumb TV at this point or an open source one that has great user control.

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    [–] 62 points 4 days ago (17 children)

    If these tvs are capturing private conversations for advertising, where’s the consent for that?

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  • [–] 56 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    EULA has T&C that the first users agree to when they fast forward with the accept accept accept accept screens

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  • [–] 45 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Doesn't matter if you technically consent, that shit is still illegal (at least in the EU)

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago

    Illegal only applies when the law is an enforced deterrence. If the fine is low enough, it's the price of doing business. If it's hard to sue or there's no enforcement, the law may as well not exist. Unfortunately, with these large companies it's been both: low fines and long lawsuits, so by the time they pay a fine, they have earned 100x the fine in a month or so

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago* (3 children)

    Those things aren't legally valid for consumer electronics or software in many countries (possibly most of the World) because they're considered an attempt at forcing a change in the terms of the sale after the sale.

    They would be totally valid if they're presented to the buyer for confirming acceptance during the purchase BEFORE they pay which, "curiously", they never are.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I don’t want a smart TV… my TV should just be a display.

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    [–] 20 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    Imagine believing that they need "AI" to record us.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    These TVs don't incorporate enough power to do any kind of serious LLM. The "AI" they're referring to here is likely an embedded speech-to-text engine. And that probably is pretty necessary for this--it would take too much data to send actual recordings to Samsung, but text transcripts are tiny and easier to search and index. It's easy to forget, but reliable speech-to-text has been around less than 20 years, and the tiny ones that can run on embedded chips are even newer.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    They're using a classifier to capture metadata (like “does a dog live there?” or “does a baby live there”) by categorizing sounds. That's all technically legal, that's why they do it that way.

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    [–] 45 points 4 days ago (43 children)

    Look AI code gets a ton of hate. And rightfully so. But you can use a coding agent to basically completely take control of hardware you own. It takes minutes.

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  • [–] 54 points 4 days ago (16 children)

    Could you go into more detail for those of us who don't want to brick their tv? I think you're over estimating some of our knowledge base.

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  • [–] 45 points 4 days ago (11 children)

    Was watching gamers nexus. Opened up codex. Gave it network permissions. It was able to fully take control of the TV in minutes. It even navigated to the admin panel and gave me the code to plug in. Very quickly had figured out some of the major API's. In a half hour, I was able to get a container/ program set up to just "send" any stream I wanted to the TV without having to use any Samsung services. Then, scramble/ poison telemetry data/ advertising data. Whatever you like. None of it is worth publishing. But I wanted to control the TV I bought. The one I own. In my house. That I paid for. And I think its royally fucked up the world we live in that there are any barriers to that.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 days ago* (8 children)

    Just don't use OpenAI or Anthropic cloud models for reverse engineering your TV's APIs. This guy got banned from OpenAI for doing this research on his Samsung TV, and there are reports of Anthropic models starting to refuse reverse engineering tasks, having been given new guidance. Apparently proles learning about the corporate surveillance they're under is a step too far.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    So, this all sounds completely plausible, but at the same time it also sounds totally crazy right! I mean that anyone could do that without actually knowing a lot about the specific system being compromised... Nuts.

    I guess I'm just curious, how much experience do you have with writing software, reverse engineering or hacking? Because I just can't wrap my head around how a layman could accomplish this. The possibility of being able to un-enshitify the devices we purchase is really very exciting.

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    Drink verification can!

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago

    I'm happy with my $200 non-wifiable Insignia and hope it lasts a long time.

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  • This is why I have a Sony TV, it doesn't listen to me of that I can garuntee. This is a shitpost, the TV is from 98 and weighs like 70 pounds.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Wow, that quote is pure gold.

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